new york city, a little bit less than that. it's a low pressure that came from the same place that the last one came from. coming down from the southwest and moving over the northeast. the good news, not going to bring ice and going to move pretty quickly. out of here in no time. only four inches of snow, five inches of snow and not 10 or 12 and not the ice because if we don't have warm air on top. the last storm we had all that ice because the warm air was on top. john, look at this. this is the u.s. and here's the northwest and here's arizona, here's texas. this is all snow on the ground this year. that's what it looked like last year. no snow on the ground, really, whatsoever. john? >> in the east coast it is coming back for more. chad, what about out west? what about the case of the tragic case of the family missing in nevada. extremely cold conditions out there. any news, good news perhaps for them? >> you know, it was 16 degrees below zero. i figure that, that's more than 100 degrees below your body temperature as that co